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  "Who else are we to go away to?"

  by simon17 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  to the intellectually honest witness, it seems like it often comes down to this principle.

  "fine, if the witnesses aren't the truth, then show me the better answer and i'll consider it.

  " and how do you deal with that?

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  Lunatic Faith

  I used to say that exact thing: "Who shall I go away to?" Then I was talking to a client who asked me if I left my religion would I burn in hell. I told her no. But then I started thinking about hell and realized it didn't sound so bad. I figure I'm smart enough to become a trustee in no time, then I could become upper management. And once I reached hell I wouldn't have to worry about anything anymore; It's all up-hill from there. No more contemplating my own demise at Armageddon because I know I'm not good enough.

  That's when I realized I needed out of a religion that made life so unbearable that eternal fiery torment was preferable. "Who shall I go away to?" Anything is better than a tortured existence enslaved by the WT.
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  A baptism question for Morbidzbaby (and the rest of ya'll).....

  by Mr. Falcon in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i read morbidzbaby's comment on the post http://www2.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/206838/1/a-question-to-the-ex-jws were she said that she got baptized "hoping that it would sort everything out".

  this got me thinking about the whole jw ritual of baptism and dedication.

  i look back and recall that i never privately "dedicated" myself to anything or anyone before taking the "dip".. the wt teaching is that a person should privately dedicate (via prayer) themselves to jehovah before publically going through the ritual.

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  I was baptized at 15, and in my 20's when I heard there was a difference between water baptism and dedication. I had no idea I was supposed to make some sort of prayer of dedication.

  Baptism was a 'protection' for me though--I was very experimental before baptism. Now I can be experimental again!
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  How have your opinions changed?

  by LovelyEunie in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  how have your opinions changed on subjects like premarital sex, gay marriage, higher education, music, smoking, interfaith marriage etc... and do you think they have changed for the better?

  personally i feel like everybody has the right to choose their own path, free to make their own choices outside of the jw's and everybody within their religion needs to deal with it and move on, like they expect everyone else to do when they made the choice to become a jw.. i have no problem with homosexuality, seeing that i'm bisexual myself; i used to hate it when my mother would get angry with me because i wouldn't tell my gay friends that it was wrong and disgusting and one day god was gonna killl them kill them for it, when she knew i was too, it was hypocracy at it's finest.

  smoking is so not a moral choice to me, it's a health choice.

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  One of my best friends, who I went to pioneer school with, is gay. So I have been pro gay rights even while still an active witness, I just kept that to myself.

  Once I decided I was leaving the JW's, the first thing I did was go out and buy a cigar. I had always been curious about smoking. In fact, ever since I was a child I would dream at least once a year that I was a smoker. Now I wonder if the dreams will cease. I want to live a full life though so I don't smoke regularly. I was visiting some ex-JW friends in Vegas last month and tried hooka for the first time. I think I might get me one of those.

  Before truly accepting that I was out of the organization, I was visiting an ex-JW (fader) who offered me 'special brownies', so I tried them. Now I am a fairly regular user of MJ--whenever I can get it.

  I am now watching all the movies I was never allowed to watch under the JW creed. Mostly horror and paranormal stuff.

  So I guess I now have a no-holds-barred attitude. Before I tried to remain unspotted and perfect in my choices but now I am trying everything and ready to listen to anything. My opinions are still evolving but like madsweeney I am entirely unjudgmental.
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  Do You Feel Somewhat Liberated When You Talk About Your JW Past?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i do.. when i tell people that i was a witness, nobody can believe it!

  i enjoy telling them why i left the religion, the harm they cause, and the benefits of being out of it.. do you express yourself in this way too or is it only me?.

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  As my hubby and I are trying to fade, we try not to be too expressive. However, I am one of those people who can't keep my mouth shut. I post my grievances on a blog I have under a pseudonym. I worry that someone will trace it back to me but, like I always tell my hubby "I've been taught my whole life to preach the truth. How can I stop now?"
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  A question to the ex-JW's...

  by losthobbit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm curious about what made you realize that your ex-religion was not "true"?.

  i've had discussions with many religious people, and they're always trying to protect their beliefs, rather than allowing anything i say challenge what they believe.

  was there ever something someone said to you, or something you read that maybe made you doubt your beliefs for the first time, or had a similar effect?.

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  OMG! I haven't seen any mags in months but I think you're right. They are alluding to Twilight. ROFLMAO

  For me there have been numerous things that slowly began to errode my confidence in this organization. But, believe it or not, I read the Twilight books in the spring of 2009 and they plunged me into such a pit of despair and hopelessness. I thought my life was over and I had nothing left to look forward to but the same humdrum existence. I mentioned this to my therapist (yes I had a therapist trying to undo all the emotional damage caused by the WBTS but I still didn't see it as their fault) and she said if I felt I had lost my zeal for life, perhaps it was my faith that was lacking. I looked at her like she had two heads that shared a forked tongue. My thoughts: "Well, you just don't understand. I have no choice." So I left her office figuring on never going back. But she planted a seed that finally germinated.

  AND I OWE IT ALL TO TWILIGHT!!
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  Did you "make the Truth your own"?

  by Mr. Falcon in

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  I didn't make the truth my own until 4 years after I was baptized--when my mother died. I was 19 and wanted desperately to welcome her back in the resurrection. So I threw myself into being a faithful JW so I could be there to welcome her back.

  When I decided not too long ago that JW's didn't have the truth I thought my heart was being torn from my chest when I realized I may never see my mother again. Now I wonder where she is...
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  So I finished reading the Origin of Species last night.....

  by Mr. Falcon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ...oh my.. i am not trying to start a creation vs. evolution debate, but something else really did stand out in my mind upon reading this "infamous" book.

  and that is that the theory of evolution is a very complex and at times, logically interesting theory.

  it makes valid points as well as asking fair and legitimate questions of the theory of creation.

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  Lunatic Faith

  A brother came to our hall once to give the Sunday public talk. His subject was evolution or creation and the "facts" he stated to support creation were so stupid they bore no resemblance to the actual truth. Yet he was up there spouting off this stuff and the congregation was eating it up. My dad, who was a profound studier and ex-elder because he couldn't be a team player, kept visibly flinching every time the brother would state something that betrayed his total ignorance.

  So after the meeting my dad goes up to this brother and asks him where he got his information. Another elder in my dads hall overheard the question and proceeded to give my father a public tongue lashing on how he had no right to question those clearly selected by God's Holy Spirit and appointed as shepherds. He humiliated my father. So dad did what he always did, apologized for thinking independently and withdrew his question.

  F@*$ing assholes! Sorry. I have a plethora of those stories that get me riled every time. Yet, you may ask, why did it take me 38 years to leave? My father taught us by example how to be doormats.
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  Going on 6 months. The that last time in a KH!

  by lil.lady.03 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

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  Lunatic Faith

  Congratulations! I feel the same way; like the whole world has been laid at my feet and there's no more WT organization to tell me what I can and cannot do. The skies the limit!
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  JW's not a cult

  by Lunatic Faith in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  okay, before you fly off the handle--i wrote a blog on how my research proves jw's are a cult (no, i haven't read the cult book yet).

  somebody linked their own findings onto my site saying the opposite.

  their evidence is erroneous and as i don't have time to point this out i thought i would let you all do it for me.. www.epages.wordpress.com.

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  Lunatic Faith

  Okay, before you fly off the handle--I wrote a blog on how my research proves JW's are a cult (no, I haven't read the Cult book yet). Somebody linked their own findings onto my site saying the opposite. Their evidence is erroneous and as I don't have time to point this out I thought I would let you all do it for me.

  www.epages.wordpress.com
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  Assembly/Convention Rules

  by IMHO in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just been reading the resurrected topic "remember when assemblies were fun".. bought back some good memories particularly regarding the 'holiday camps'.. i was going to add this but decided it warranted it's own topic.. the 'good times' have been replaced by incessant rules.

  here is a selection from the last circuit assembly i attended.

  please feel free to add to the list.. .

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  Lunatic Faith

  palmtree67 and dinah -- so, so true!!